Wednesday, December 22, 2021
Blasphemy, Apostasy, Ex Muslims
Tuesday, December 21, 2021
Books, Banned Books
Most of banned books in India are related to Criticism of Islam, and they say Hindus are intolerant. Those banned books include: Satanic Verses by Salman Rushdi, and Understanding Islam through Hadis - Religious Faith or Fanaticism?, by Ram Swaroop. I recall during MMS there was some riot by Muslims in Lucknow, rioters had started with protest against Myanmar. Then they attacked Journalists also, chased them, injured many journalists. Similar thing happened during Azad Maidan Mumbai riots (2012) when Muslims attacked even female police. But journalists say they are afraid of Hindus.
Rangila Rasul
Monday, December 13, 2021
Politics is Good and Important.
Politics and Money making are both important arts.
Friday, December 10, 2021
Importance of First Principles: Hinduism, Jainism, Buddhism, India.
I have repeatedly seen that just faith or purusharth is not enough to make a person good, make his actions bear good fruit. Faith in the right direction helps, but is insufficient. How good we can be is often limited by our knowledge. How good we can be in our feelings and self assessment is another matter and often not the correct measure of how good we are in an objective sense. I have seen people with very good intentions, kindness, empathy, doing stupid things.
On Symbolism
There are things written on a piece of paper, which feels to be right, working. And then there is man, who is subject to not only the cold reality on piece of paper, but also to dark world of emotions, feelings, brain mechanisms/workings, about which he has very little knowledge, about which very little has been written, and even less has been read. So an ordinary person knows extremely less. To control or intervene is even more difficult, but knowing is the first step.
Materialists reduce the whole world to things on piece of paper, to material objects. They define yes and no, rules, (and they like to dictate the rules of debate based on their limited knowledge) when reality is gray. You cant create a better quality copy image from a poor quality. And to improve quality, you need to improve first image, your vision, and to do that you also need to look within.
I said in blog https://danasurdanu.blogspot.com/2021/06/why-polytheism-makes-sense.html
"It is not God that is worshipped but the authority that claims to speak in His name. "And that authority can be without any form or God imaginable. It might just be physical processes. It is abstraction. For example say name of a company say Microsoft. Now there is no Microsoft human or animal or bird, or tree; Microsoft has no life. But we say things like "Microsoft shares dropped" "Microsoft is doing well", "Microsoft is best company to work at", "Microsoft will go very high". Now who is Microsoft? It is just an abstraction. Same way I think about Hindu deities. They are useful symbols towards that unknown.
Symbolism works, and it is good as long as you work with goals in mind, with first principles, as long as symbols don't become a goal in themselves (due to ignorance, inertia of dark mental habits), it works very well. I am more efficient, my thinking is more efficient and developed when I am writing to real beings, when I am talking in my mind. Abstraction takes little more energy even for a person like me who is very good at abstractions. Brain doesn't likes to waste energy. And to brain real entities, idols, images of God, feels more real. If a person can't imagine something, he will not be able to spend energy on it. If a person can't visualize something, he will quit it. Just like people quit mathematics, but even a poor man can admire a painting. We like to have images of our ancestors, we like to recall their name. We put flowers on photographs of martyrs. What is in name? Name is another symbol. So according to Islam name should also be haram. And according to leftists everything which is not related to bread and butter is haram (with convenient exceptions). Reducing a live entity sensitive creature to that is not wise.
Infact many of the Devas' of Aryans were ancestors and those ancestors they elevated with time to the level of Deva (Deva is not God, both have different qualities). So we Vedas talk about 33000 Devas. Adi Shankara mostly propagated Nirgun Brahman (Brahman without image/idol etc.) Ramanuja and Chaitanya Mahaprabhu propagated Saguna Brahman, (Brahman with symbols, artistic expressions, idols/images). And even though debates and logic-wise Shankara was better than anyone except Buddha and Mahavira, but it was Ramanuja who got more done. Abstraction worked for an intelligent man like Adi Shankara. But even Shankara used symbols (as a secondary). As Lin Yutang said something like, "a western man looks into something and thinks this idea will work or not. Chinese wisdom will also require, that idea suits to human nature or not, and then only idea can qualify."
We can see the result that Bhakti movements made significant contribution in India's (common mans) spiritual development. Advaita is limited to intellectuals. Swami Dayanad Saraswati tried it, but Iskcon is more successful than Arya Samaj. Global effect is that religion in its most developed form can be found in India, more than any place else. There are 36 Gitas, 110 upanishad, 18 Puranas, Aranyaks, Shrutis, Smriti.....add to that works of Jain and Buddhism. Each of the guru in Nalanda and Vikramshila Universities used to be author of several books, and that was there for 1300 years. Buddhism uses symbolism in form of stories, metaphors, abstract philosophies. There are more terminologies related to psychology in Buddhism and Jainism than terms developed in the entire world and field of psychology outside of India. It is efficient and hence man here developed much broader developed detailed imagination. As I believed even our thinking is simulation, our perception is simulation/symbolic. Brain works that way.
Compare to that, so far nobody has probably written any commentary on Quran, to explain it to 21st century and all the centuries in between. Because Muslims take it as final word. They cant allow a single alphabet to go here and there, they like to recite it in pure Arabic as it was in 7th century, even if they don't understand the meaning. There is one advantage, they are less confused. They read only one book, and that makes whole thing lot easier.
Commentaries on Bhagwad Gita, Upanishad were written in every century, to make it accessible to that time and situation etc. In the past Greek and Roman philosophy, spirituality was much more developed.
Another highly developed religion is Judaism. Judaism is religion of one God. But their theology developed in the historical past which was much more diverse, before their kings finally zeroed on one God. There was diversity of views. A lot of work was done for many centuries before it was finalized. There are 24 books in Hebrew Bible. Old testament has 39 books. They did not cut things on the first day.
There was some possibility in Islam with Sufis. But Sufis were cut down by Deobandis, Salafis, Barelwi.....Taliban...etc. To the effect that very limited independence of thought exists in present so called Sufis.
But let us also look at another aspect.
Indians have rigid judgmental habits. They judge a person based on what he is today and his status etc, and they expect little change. India sees changes slowly. They don't expect people to change, people to have potential. Caste system is one such thing, people are expected to be like that person as they were born. Sometimes something is very simple but make it mountain; we have a story in mind completely disconnected from the reality and that story makes very simple things, extremely complex. That story being fed by everyone, and we feeding to everyone.
There is extreme desire to label, somebody as good, somebody as dumb. People start that early in childhood and it is at peak around age of 25. Biggest examination is held during marriage proposals. This judgment has a negative side directed to self as well. A person judges his own place in society based on what others say and that becomes his world and his own voice.
Indian people think that what works for Europeans, white people will not work for us. So intelligent Indian guys from rural or lower middle class backgrounds end up doing mediocre jobs. My mother always says "Don't compare yourself with XYZ, he is millionaire, his parents have already made fortunes". Millions of times, my parents always said I am worth nothing, and they still believe in that. They projected their own misfortune, failure and poverty on me.
When the thing is that computers, books, labs, the external world, trees, mountains, they are all neutral. They don't care whether a person is me or those XYZ. I will end up better than them in everything on any day. But that didn't convince my parents. It is same with most people. They take these superstitious beliefs seriously. They kind of make up that this is their fate. Less belief in action, more belief in fate. People feel their fate has already been fixed by actions of past births etc, effort will not help them overcome that. This way people are very less likely to challenge the view, prevalence of mediocrity etc.
Reality is that the son of Mukesh Ambani (richest man in India, in top 10 globally) and a poor man in remote village has has equal probability in everything at time of birth. People had weird customs of untouchability, which ruined millions of lives.
First principles are important. Accidents do happen. People forget about first principles when they don't see accidents happening. We don't know why the helicopter of late Bipin Rawat Ji (Chief of Defense Staff) suffered accident, 12 deaths. Last month one of my juniors died in ship in fire. When we were doing fire drills some ten years back in a dummy structure, replicating ship superstructure, one of the most important challenges was not to forget where you entered, how you entered so that you can come back after extinguishing the fire, or saving some dome body. And alert people made use of their fire resistant long ropes, some liked to go without rope. When nothing happens people become careless.
Same way, happens in spirituality, when people forget the first principles, where it came from, why and how. They get into the labyrinth, to find the nectar, but they are lost in it. At least some people ought to remember it. To correct others when they go wrong. So we have this belief in fait accompli, in previous births etc.
In ship there is no support, ship might be 5000 kms away from coast and by the time any help arrives, you are dead. Same way we are alone in our brains, before things are explained, before some might reach there, it might be late.
First principles allow you to connect to the roots, to keep goal in sight, to correct and judge overall process. Otherwise, in the dark alleys of the brain you will be lost. It is very easy to get lost. Like I get lost in book cleaning, hoarding, and room cleaning. Indians get lost in religion very often, as Lin Yutang said, the problem of India is too much of religion. It is not too much of religion that is the problem, but too much of religion not well connected from reality. First principles allow people to cut and trim, and re-orient.
We find the same request to youth, in messages from Vivekananda again and again, to not listen to weak minds, to break the bonds of weak society. Only those who have fought they understand the value of first principles. Tilak wrote Gita rahasya, better commentaries on Gita.
It is like you go to a friends wedding and you start playing cards. Which is O.K. you are not disturbing others. But then you become so busy with cards, that you forget everything and your life is now playing card, barat has returned but you are still playing card.
Religion is important, and it is good to let it develop. But then religion in itself became purpose, disconnected from the reality. So people instead of connecting it to reality, started being guided by religion. It became a secondary source of truth (everyone feeding everyone else, despite the thing itself being unreal, but thing exists in the imagination). That is a dangerous thing.
Like some person born in wealthy family, say he takes sanyas. Then he develops some more art, develops some old scripture or writes new. It is like you enter into some labyrinth and then you find how good the labyrinth is, and you lose yourself in that labyrinth. But you continue to have real needs, which are being fulfilled by others. That is a difficult situation.
That is what has happened in India. People have forgot habit of verification, connecting. And have developed a parallel world of reality. I don't feel afraid of science, because I always use science to correct myself.
It is like doing computer simulations, suppose you start enjoying simulations and you keep making ship models and simulating them in virtual ocean in computer.
(something like this)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OH0l5CkY_aY
But you don't make any simulations for real yards, you have become incompetent of relating your simulations to reality. You are simulating because you enjoy it. But your simulations are disconnected from physics, it is only good for sight. Then you have a real problem. If you make real ships (in sense that it reflects the physics) and then in spare time you also do it for sake of art, because you like it, then it is OK.
First principles are important, because human brain has proved to be very unreliable and secondary things always go into wrong directions. People need to be directly told again and again. It is a great intellectual challenge to code same message which was told previously in metaphors, in direct words and to get the desired response as well. Metaphors by nature will always be susceptible to manipulation, twisting, due to ignorance or by vested interests. Main message is lost soon, and only rituals stay.
Only when the main message is directly coded there in the form which become rituals, and will stay as a part of rituals then message will stay.
Psychology
Even the demonstration we see, can have wrong conclusions, wrong understanding. So what we know to be real by demonstration, may also be a false story. The Only thing additional would be sensory experience, in addition to story. Only difference is the extra memory of sensory experience which adds to the story.
Thursday, December 2, 2021
Interesting Facts 6
(1) Kashi Vishwanath Temple. Demolished
•1194 CE -by Mohammad Ghori
•1505-1515 CE- by Sikandar Lodi
•1669 CE -by Aurangzeb built the Mosque over it.
Nandi near Gyan Wapi kuan in the back side of the main temple looking towards the mosque in the wall of which one can clearly see a Hindu temple arch. If Muslims had any slightest respect for feelings of Hindus they would handover that Gyanvapi visibly erected on temple walls.
Rani Ahilyabai, well within her powers, but still she did not touch the Mosque. She got temple built nearby. Kashi is not just center of faith for few people, it is center of faith for all Hindus.
As Modi Ji said: “The king of Punjab, Maharaja Ranjit Singh, donated gold to brighten the temple. The queen of Bengal, Rani Bhawani, and the kings of Mysore and various other provinces contributed towards rebuilding Kashi. This is why temples that reflect north Indian, south Indian, Nepalese and all other styles can be found here, On the ghats along the river Ganga, boatmen and vendors can surprise anyone by speaking Tamil, Telugu, Kannada, Bengali and other languages fluently. The same bonding keeps the energy of India intact."
2017, first time I was going to Chennai and southern parts of India, and our coach was full of Kawadia devotees from Hyderabad who were returning from Kashi.
Before building of the Corridor in 2021, temple going devotees were stopped and the Muslims were allowed to go to the mosque due to the only way existing there. In such a situation, the hearts of the devotees standing in the queue for hours must have been hurt. It is tolerance of Hindus that they do nothing, appeal to courts. Think if that happened in Saudi or Pakistan, they will not wait a single hour. Hindu pilgrims from all corners of India, go and see and do nothing.
Compare to that: Hindu community in Pakistan’s Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa has decided to pay fines imposed on 11 religious leaders involved in the temple attack in Karak district in December 2020. The payment of Rs 30.3 million will be made as a ‘goodwill gesture’ from the All Pakistan Hindu Council’s fund.
But they preach us tolerance, and call us intolerant.
See the reaction of Muslims on Kashi Vishwanath Corridor. They are all very sad. One man even crying that "Ye masjid ko dhak diya hai...." Hindu can not even make his own temple in neighborhood of a mosque. Aaj Tak reporter consoles a namazi from Bengal crying over Kashi Vishwanath temple hiding Aurangzeb's mosque. She then threatens a local man who tries to say it is not just the temple but entire Kashi that is seeing development.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxtaK-WuMzI
We hear azan daily..kaashi is mecca for us.. mecca to non muslims ko enter hi nahi hone dete ..
(2) Nandraj Goud was leading a small group of Karsewaks who were the first to breach security & climb Babri on 6th Dec. Muzlims stabbed him to death on 16th December 1992 in Hyderbad.
(3) The National Minority Commission has rejected the appeal for minority tag for Hindu in these nine states and UT. Meghalaya, Manipur, Nagaland, Arunachal Pradesh, Mizoram, J&K, Punjab, Ladakh, Lakshdeep.
(4) A friend: "Once I was travelling in Luteyan Road, Delhi by a rental car. The driver was a arabian named person. When I reached A P J Abdul Kalam Rd I enquired the driver as to which road we were travelling through. He told that we were travelling through Aurangzeb road. I informed him that the name of the road had been changed. He was shocked and in sheer desperation he replied that, yah to bahut galat hua. I asked him kaise galat hua. He did not reply. Such is their commitment towards Aurangzeb."
(5) Tejaswi yadav was shouting, doing movement for caste census. Himself he married Christian girl. His father created political career, which he has inherited, in the name of caste, killing thousands. Same way both sons of Mulayam married Rajput girls. While bothe Mulayam and Akhilesh, did politics of caste.
(6) There's no radical islam... Islam itself is radical. It's matter of only demographics. In minority it's all about brotherhood and Secularism... In Muslim majority like Kashmir it's all about La ilah illa Allah.
(7) America stayed on long in Japan after WW2, but that country did not turn violent. Lets face it, its more of Islam thing which is inherently violent.
(8) Those who burned the Nalanda university, there stone age idiots, they did not have wisdom to find or appreciate intelligence. Now it is western people who are very interested in Buddhism, see its value and study it. Because they have some brain. And worse are the leftists and people who find glory in those stone age barbarians and seek to justify that.
(9) Gurgaon namaz issue: People who suggested building a hospital instead of a temple in Ayodhya are today advocating that public roads & highways should be used for praying instead of conducting business and travel. All the “scientific temper” and “forward thinking” quickly vanishes with convenience.
(10) A lot of known people were telling me about Godi media, media has purchased everything. I also watch media. I didnot see such thing. Now it occurs to me that, this also they didnot observe first hand but got from other media channels, like NDTV which keep telling that media has sold out to Modi and keep twisting information and selective reporting to imply that.
(11) According to THE MUSLIM PERSONAL LAW (SHARIAT) APPLICATION ACT, 1937
Marriage age for Muslim girls is puberty age. And government has no rights to intervene in anything related to Muslim personal law.
Hindu, Christian and Parsi Laws were amended after independence, but no government dared to touch Shariyat.
When Mosques all over India don't allow women, no outrage. There was online fake outrage over kanyadan tradition, by upper middle class feminists, but no outrage over Muslim personal law allowing marriage after puberty 14-15 age. No outrage over Muslim traditions like Nikah Halala, 4 wives, no alimony, triple talaq. Muslim personal law treats female like cattle, denies them inheritance if they marry non-Muslim.
Modi brought marriage act 2021, making minimum age of marriage of females 21. Now all leftists, Islamists and other so called progressives are calling it patriarchal, fascist. Among them Owaisi, Kavita Krishnan, CPI (M), AIMPLB. Now they don't want equality. Muslims think Mohammed married at 9, because girl can get puberty at 9. Now all these are showing that they are with Muslims.
(12) When Yati Nasimhanand put posters that non-Hindus not allowed, there was outrage for months. When Sikhs killed a Dalit man at Singhu border on the charges of sacrilege in October 2021, and now lynched a man in Golden temple, and one mentally challenged beggar lynched in Kapurthala, no media or politician spoke, instead they all condemned sacrilege. No FIR was filed against killers, while police lodged the case of sacrilege against dead. Second mentally challenged guy was killed without reason (was trying to get roti), but when killing came open they gave excuse that he did sacrilege. Recently six people have been lynched by Sikhs. No campaigns on twitter: Not in my name; Ashamed to be a Sikh; Is this what we use temples for?; Is this what our religion teaches us? So much anger over sacrilege in Muslims Sikhs, but there would be lakhs of such cases related to Hindus, but don't hear anything because Hindus are tolerant. Historically hundreds of thousands of temples have been demolished but calling on it is communal.
This image above shows, what kind of representatives western people chose. Many of them have nothing to speak except race, feminism and all. We saw before how Sikh ministers in Canada, and PM Justin Trudeau did Khalistan rhetoric. They do it to get votes of Pakistanis in Canada and UK.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBpt5muqpW4
(13) When Modi was CM of Gujarat, there was several attempts on his life. He doesn't say he feels unsafe. But those who never had any problem, always keep propagating that India is burning,....
On So called Islamic Golden Age
Most of scholars who did something were influenced by Greek and Socratic kind of philosophy, which asked to doubt, enquire. Upper class pseudo rational Muslims bring everywhere about Islamic Golden Age; want to believe things based on faith and bring stuff which agrees that; not doubt them. Most of those scholars were rejected by Muslims themselves later on; during their own lives many were labeled as heretic. Muslims conquered unto Spain, and they come across Greek philosophy.
The Reconstruction of Religious Thought in Islam, Book by Muhammad Iqbal.
Iqbal has disowned Al Farabi, Sina, Ghazali and that entire Golden period as bad time in history of Muslims, a diversion. Iqbal has said, reason is shaitan ka kam. Reason and debates are useless, one can understand Allah with feeling and heart alone.
Iqbal has meant that asal chij ishaq hai aur ishq wo jo dil hi jan sakta hai. agar aap apni duniya ko samjhna chahen to aapki akal jo hai wo bekar chij hai. akal aapko sirf satahi (superficial) chijen bata sakti hain, jo asal chij hai wo dil janta hai. Reason is insufficient, reason will not allow you to know the world. Not only western education is waste, you cant understand the world by facts and reasoning. You can only understand the world by passion of heart.
“Greek philosophy has been a great cultural force in the history of Islam. Yet a careful study of Quran and various schools of scholastic theology. that arose under the inspiration of Greek thought disclose the remarkable fact that while Greek philosophy very much broadened the outlook of Muslim thinkers. It on the whole obscured their vision of the Quran. “
Iqbal on science: Physics ki buniyad hi kharab hai. Thus physics has found it necessary to criticize its own foundations. “It has eventually found reason to break its own idol and eventually and empirical attitude which appears to necessitate scientific materialism has finally ended in a revolt against matter.”
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Reference for content below: The Nostalgia of Islamic Golden Age vs. the History of Science by Syed Kamran Mirza
The so called ‘Islamic Golden Age’ was not any product of Islamic scriptural knowledge, nor it was due to any degree of devoutness of religion Islam. It was all about the success of some Muslim-born freethinkers during the period of liberal freethinking Caliphs of Abbasid dynasty.
The seventh Abbasid caliph, al-Ma'mun took considerable pains to obtain Greek manuscripts and even sent a mission to the Byzantine Emperor Leon the Armenian (8l3 to 890) for that purpose. He ordered the translation of these manuscripts. He organized at Baghdad a sort of scientific academy called the House of Wisdom. He encouraged scholars from all kinds (various religions), and an enormous amount of scientific work was done under his patronage.
Al-Razi (865-925) : His views on religion in general and Islam in particular earned him public condemnation for blasphemy. Almost all of Al-Razi’s philosophical books were destroyed by the revival force.
Ibn Sina (973-1037): Because of his views, became the main target of an attack Islamic philosophers and was even called “apostate”.
Al-Ma'arri, (973-1057): The greatest Syrian philosopher poet, skeptic and freethinker known as "Lucretius of the East", despised religions in general and Islam in particular. Omar Khayyam (1048-1122): He was an agnostic, He did not believe in resurrection, Judgment Day or rewards and punishments in an alleged afterlife.
Ibn Rushd (1126-1198): born in present-day Spain was an important philosopher and scientist. Ibn Rushd worked as a mediator between the Arabic and the Western world by commenting and interpreting Greek philosophers such as Aristotle and Plato, making them accessible to Arabic culture. he was condemned for heresy by the Christian, the Jewish and the Islamic orthodoxy and his works were frequently banished and burnt.
al-Khwarizmi (780-850): born in Khwarizm in Uzbekistan. He worked most of his life as a scholar in the house of wisdom in Baghdad. He was a Persian mathematician, astronomer, astrologer and geographer. His "Compendious Book on Calculation by Completion and Balancing". Latin translations of his Arithmetic, on the Indian numerals, introduced the decimal positional number system to the Western world in the 12th century. Most of the positional base 10 numeral systems in the world have originated from India which first developed the concept of positional numerology. The Indian numeral system is commonly referred to the West as Hindu-Arabic numeral system, since it reached Europe through the Arabs.
History of Algebra: The Chinese, the Persians, and the people of India used algebra thousands of years ago. The Babylonians, Egyptians, and Greeks contributed to the early development of algebra. Al-Khwarizmi a teacher in the mathematical school in Baghdad, collected and improved the advances in algebra of previous Hindu and Arab scholars. His works included the translation of Greek and Sanskrit scientific manuscript.
Al-Khwarizmi never indicated that he was influenced by religiosity or he received any scientific theory out of Koran or hadiths.
Al-Biruni (973-1048): held that the Qur’an does not interferes in the business of science nor does it infringe on the realm of science.
Ishaq al-Kindi (c. 801–873): Al-Kindi became a prominent figure in the House of Wisdom, and a number of Abbasid Caliphs appointed him to oversee the translation of Greek scientific and philosophical texts into the Arabic language. This contact with "the philosophy of the ancients" (as Greek philosophy was often referred to by Muslim scholars) had a profound effect on his intellectual development. His own thought was largely influenced by the Neo-Platonic philosophy of Proclus, Plotinus and John Philoponus, amongst others, although he does appear to have borrowed ideas from other Hellenistic schools as well. During his life, al-Kindi was fortunate enough to enjoy the patronage of the pro-Mutazilite Caliphs al-Ma'mun and al-Mu'tasim, which meant he could carry out his philosophical speculations with relative ease. His works, says Deborah Black, contained all the seeds of future controversy that would be fully realized in al-Ghazali's "Incoherence of the Philosophers".
Al-Farabi (870-950): He was inspired by the Platonism and Neo-Platonism and was a great exponent of the Aristotelian school of philosophy. He wrote rich commentaries on Aristotle and like al-Razi, he considered reason superior to revelation and advocated for the relegation of prophecy to philosophy. According to him as quoted by Nicholson, “…reason should govern and control the life of man. He definitely did not believe in the inherent doctrines of the Islamic creed and wished it could be reformed guided by philosophy.
Al-Ghazali (1058-1111 AD): Was born and died in Iran. Imam Al-Ghazali is widely known for his heroic role to defeat Mu‘tazilites (rationalized movement) and revived pure Islam. While it is well known that Al-Ghazali himself intended to "shut the door of ijtihad" (the process through which Islamic scholars can generate new rules for Muslims) completely and permanently, which led the Islamic societies to be "frozen in time". Works of critics of Al-Ghazali (such as Ibn-Rushd, a rationalist), as well as the works of any ancient philosopher, were practically forbidden in these "frozen societies" through the centuries. As a result, all chances were lost to gradually revitalize religion of Islam. His 11th century book titled “The Incoherence of the Philosophers” marks a major turn in Islamic epistemology (study of the nature, methods, limitations, and validity of knowledge and belief) and marked a turning point in Islamic philosophy in its vehement rejections of Aristotle and Plato. The book took aimed bitter attack to the group of Islamic philosophers (from the 8-11 centuries) most notable Avicenna and Al-Frabi etc. who drew intellectually upon the Ancient Greeks. Ghazali bitterly denounced Aristotle, Socrates and other Greek philosophers and writers. And labeled those who adopted their methods and ideas as corrupters of the true Islamic faith.
Another of Ghazali’s major work was : “Ihya ʿulūm al-din” (“The revival of religious sciences”) was widely regarded as the greatest work of Muslim spirituality, and has, for centuries, been the most read work after the Qur’ān in the Muslim world. In this book Imam Ghazali rejuvenated Islamic dogmas (full of ridiculous hadiths with untold superstitions and absurdities) only to push back Muslim societies deep into the darkness of Islamic radicalism. He mastered philosophy and then criticized it in order to Islamicize it. Philosophy declined in the Sunni world after al-Ghazali, and his criticism of philosophers (Islamic luminaries who followed Aristotle, Pluto, Socrates etc) certainly accelerated this decline.
Imam Ghazali was the only Islamic luminary who was a perfect Muslim or a strong believer in Islamic theology and because of his strong belief (without reason and logic) in Islamic theology—Imam Ghazali turned into a famous Islamic theologian, scholar and a philosopher but he was not a scientists.
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Anal Haq: Ana Al-Haqq is a short story based on the life of the Sufi Mansur Al-Hallaj, who was indicted and stoned to death on charges of heresy. First his legs were chopped, then his hands were chopped, tongues pulled out.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anal_Haq
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Hallaj
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Those like Sina were not were not organic with the nature of Islam. Their scholarship was not because of Islam, but in-spite of it. They were not strong enough to change the Islam, so in the long term they were rejected by body politic of Islam. While Ghazali types were accepted. Same way Muslims in Indian continent have rejected Dr Kalam, Abdus Samad types and accepted Owaisi and Jinnah types.
When Xenotransplant was first tried, human beings would survive few days on Babbon heart, or lever, then immune system of the body will reject it. Same happens with Islam.
In Hindu culture there is capacity to accept and digest, so there were Buddha, Mahavira, Nanak and all are respected, and they flourished, influenced us.
Human beings are stupid in one time frame. Conditions of the world did not change much from 7th century to 20th century. So Islam flourished. But Islam is not organic with evolution, so in a longer time frame in a fast changing world after scientific revolution, Islam will be completely rejected by evolved Human brain.
Take example of Indian continent.
APJ Abdul Kalam: You won't find Muslims reading APJ Abdul Kalam, but his book wings of fire, everyone (Hindu) want's to read or has read. The day he was being put in grave, mostly Hindus mourned his death. On the same day lakhs of Muslims of India were in the death procession of terrorist Yakub Menon (convicted in Mumbai 1993 blasts).
Pakistan produced four scientists and one Industrialist of eminence.
Subrahmanyan Chandrasekhar (1910-1995), was born in Lahore, spent his childhood there until 1922. He was awarded the 1983 Nobel Prize for Physics with William A. Fowler for "...theoretical studies of the physical processes of importance to the structure and evolution of the stars".
Har Gobind Khorana (1922-2011), was born in Multan, this famous MIT professor had won the 1968 Nobel Prize and started a brand new field — protein synthesis via nucleotides. He did his bachelor and master’s degrees from Punjab University.
Sarvadaman Chowla (1907 – 1995) , an accomplished mathematician who headed the mathematics department from 1937 to 1947. Being Hindu, he left Lahore after the rioting began and went to Princeton University, then the University of Colorado at Boulder, and eventually became professor at the University of Pennsylvania. He died in 1995 and was celebrated as a famous number theorist by the American Mathematical Society with several important theorems to his name.
Abdus Salam (1926-1996) winner of the 1979 physics Nobel, he studied at Government College (GC) Lahore and later taught at Punjab University. However, no road or landmark in Lahore bears Salam’s name. He was an Ahmadiya Muslim. On his grave it was written "First Muslim to win Nobel in science" Muslim was erased after Ahmadiya were declared non-Muslim in Pakistan.
Sir Ganga Ram (1851-1927): He was a civil engineer and architect who developed irrigation system of Layllpur and Montgomrey districts of Punjab (now in Pakistan) and he developed Lahore city.
He designed and built General Post Office, Lahore, Lahore Museum, Aitchison College, Mayo School of Arts (now the National College of Arts), Ganga Ram Hospital, Lahore 1921, Lady Mclagan Girls High School, the chemistry department of the Government College University, the Albert Victor wing of Mayo Hospital, Sir Ganga Ram High School (now Lahore College for Women), the Hailey College of Commerce (now Hailey College of Banking & Finance), Ravi Road House for the Disabled, the Ganga Ram Trust Building on "The Mall" and Lady Maynard Industrial School. He also constructed Model Town and Gulberg town, once the best localities of Lahore, the powerhouse at Renala Khurd as well as the railway track between Pathankot and Amritsar.
He took more than 20,000 acres of land on lease from the Government near Renala and cultivated it by completely irrigating the barren land with hydro-electric pumping. He purchased thousands acres of barren land in Lyallpur on lease and by using engineering skills and modern irrigation methods, turned the arid lands into fertile fields.[citation needed] He established a Maynard-Ganga Ram award of Rs 3000 with a Rs 25000 endowment. The award was to be made every three years for anyone who made an innovation that increased agricultural production in Punjab.
First thing after independence, Pakistanis did, was to destroy statue of Sir Ganga Ram at a popular location in Lahore. There is no semblance of recognition for these four gentlemen who were Hindu. They are dirty, evil for Pakistanis. They find their pride in Turkish jihadi Ertugrul Ghazi from 13th century. Their love for science and these ancient thousand year old Muslim scholars is only their love for pride in Islam, they have zero love for science. They reject everything done by non-Muslim or claim it to have come from Quran.
I don't want to tell about Bhagat Singh and other people of politics. They find love in 1000 year old Arab scholars, but they spit on Taxshila, Bamiyan etc.
Reminds me of this Muslim colleague Adn from Delhi, I suggested him many books of pioneers in our field, many times. He never read. But once I was reading a book by an Egyptian Engineer, Mohammed El Reedy, a third class book. He said "ab mai bhi kuchh padhta hun, mai ye kitab kharidta hun." That was not a proper book even.
Another Senior from college, has PhD, once I was talking about book by Tal Ben Shaher, he asked me if he is Arab, I said no he is Jew. His curiosity vanished.
Thursday, November 18, 2021
Pakistan Kashmir Jihad Indian Muslims
(1) Iman, Taqwa, Jihad fi-Sabilillah (Jihad for the cause of Allah) is the motto of Pakistan Army. Pakistani army is not just guardian of Islam, Pakistani army is guardian of Islam. In a survey 80% of Pakistanis identified themselves as Muslim first, Pakistani second.
(2) When Indians shout Bharat mata ki Jai. They shout Allah hu Akbar.
(3) Hindus were not allowed in Pakistani army. In 2006, Danish, a resident of Sindh became the first Hindu cadet in the army, when Musharraf was in power.
2022 October: Pakistan where a 75 member cabinet of PMLN has no NON MUSLIM MINISTER. The PTI does not even have a Non Muslim in its 60 member CEC.
According to the Pakistan constitution, Prime Ministers, Presidents, Chief Ministers and Governors must all be Muslims.
Pakistan's parliament blocks bill allowing non-Muslims to become country's Prime Minister, President.
October 2019
(4) Even though Muslims constitute 97 per cent of Pakistan’s population, they continue to demand stricter blasphemy laws (Islam is in danger), further seeking State’s patronage of Islam, against 3% minorities. They say in India they are minority, what is excuse in Pakistan?
(5) Under Article 295 of its penal code, any Pakistani Muslim who feels his or her religious feelings have been hurt, directly or indirectly, for any reason or any action of another Pakistani citizen can accuse blasphemy and open a criminal case against anyone. According to the Federal Shariat Court, the punishment for any type of blasphemy is death.
(6) Indian and Pakistani Muslims work together on many things. There are inter country marriages, relations. Jamia-tul-Madina is a chain of Islamic universities, 200 in Pakistan, 11 in India.
Why they don't use their connection to ask Pakistanis to stop terrorism in Kashmir and elsewhere? Same way Muslims in other parts of India have connections with Kashmiri Muslims. Common organizations etc.
December 2020 Tablighi Jamat organized Jalsas, in which they called Muslims from many countries, COVID spread from there. Indian left liberals had defended Tablighi Jamaat and called anyone who exposed them “Islamophobic”. December 2021 Saudi Arabia has banned Tablighi Jamaat over terror links, calling it "one of the gates of terrorism". Will the Indian Liberals now call them also Islamophobic? Tablighi jamaat was founded in India in 1920, by Maulana Muhammad Ilyas, a Deobandi Chisti-Sūfi.
Tablighi, Jamat e Islam, all these are international groups, working in India, Pakistan, Bangladesh. They only cooperate for Islam. Like Indian Muslims rioting for anything and everything that happens in Turkey, France, Myanmar, Denmark etc.
Most of the terrorist groups such as Taliban, follow Deobandi version of Islamic Sharia. 65% Madarsa in Pakistan are Depbandi. In India most Madarsa are either Barelvi or Deobandi. Both of these Islamic ideologies is followed by many Islamic terrorist groups. But they say Hindutva, RSS inspires terror.
(7) 1984 Pakistani Islamisation program referendum: A referendum on the Islamisation policy of President Muhammad Zia-ul-Haq was held in Pakistan on 19 December 1984. Voters were asked whether they supported Zia-ul-Haq's proposals for amending several laws in accordance with the Quran and Sunnah, whether they wanted this process to continue, and whether they supported the Islamic ideology of Pakistan.
(9) Before 1965 war, President of Pakistan Ayub khan had given a statement in their bilateral conversation with Americans- "we want to have a joint military with India to fight communists"...... When Atal Bihari Bajpayee was visiting Pakistan to build goodwill gesture, pakistani soldiers were occupying vacanted Indian Peaks in Kargil.....
(10) Difference between Islam and other cultures, see the difference between Laddakh and Kashmir.
2003, when Vajpayee Ji was to come Srinagar and do a public rally. Before that there was bomb blast few kms away, sound came at the rally venue. A kashmiri Pandit who had left valley in 1990, his house was blown. Some Muslims in my hometown were gossiping, achha kiya do char aur dhamaka karta...That was their hate..
(11) Zia ul Haq talked about Nizam e Mustafa, now Imran Khan talks about Riyasat e Madina, but he rants about Hindutva, RSS, BJP, intolerance in India all the time, as if his business is not Pakistan but India.
https://tribune.com.pk/story/2339025/spirit-of-riyasat-i-madina-transforming-pakistan
Imran Khan, in his 2002 article, blamed the West’s follies upon, “Philosophers like Darwin, who with his half-baked theory of evolution had supposedly disproved the creation of men and hence religion, were read and revered”.
https://www.arabnews.com/node/217634
(12) Entire focus in Pakistan is on whether Quran is being taught properly or not. Inspectors check that, that is their main concern. And Namaz is compulsory in many schools.
They provide separate seats (10 of 342) for non Muslims not because they are just and fair. But because their entire system is Islamic in which there is no place for non-Muslims (that includes Ahmadi as well) in the main system. They are not giving anything special. There is no such need in a secular country like India because here everyone has same rights.
(13) One Paki said: "There was a time when Muslims of sub continent got together and wanted their homeland and got Pakistan. Today Kashmiris are asking for it to be part of Pakistan, not India."
Me: If that is so then why they did not go to their homeland? If India is such a bad place the why did they stay here? why only Kashmir? 95% Indian Muslims don't live in Kashmir. If decision of Kashmir has to be on the basis of Islam then that decision has to be taken by all Muslims not just 5% and they already made that decision once in 1947 by creating Pakistan; not going there was their own choice, you buy food then whether you eat or throw is unimportant. Hindus vacated Pakistan, because Pakistan was a bad place, without any safety for life, or respect, and no Hindu wants to go back to Pakistan. Why Pakistanis don't live in homeland? which they said will be developed like Switzerland, where is that Switzerland? Even Mohajir don't want to live there.
(14) 1990 kashmir: Stories of Girija Tikkoo (gangraped and cut by saw alive) and Sarla Bhat (gangraped killed) were never reported by media because it did not suit their hypocrisy. People start vacating a place when their women are not safe anymore, abducted, raped. No matter how many fake stories Muslim tell, but they live here, because their women are safe among Hindus.
Islamization of Kashmir started under Sheikh Abdullah, then Farrukh Abdulla, then Gulam Mohammed Shah.
Attack on temples and Hindus took place in February 1986.
Jagmohan was made Governor by Congress first time, for five years. Second time by Janata Dal.
14th sept 1989, JKLF killed Tika Lal Taploo.
2nd Dec 1989, VP Singh became PM. Mufti Mohammed Syed was CM. On 8th December Rubiya Sayed was kidnapped by JKLF, five key terrorist were released within four days. One of These terrorists Mushtaq Ahmed Zargar was again arrested in 1992, charged with many murders and later in Indian plane IC814 hijack, he was released.
This was between 8-12 December 1989. Anti Hindu posters were put up, ads came in Newspapers by unknown people that Pandit should vacate Kashmir or get killed.
Now Jagmohan was appointed Governor again on 19th Jan 1990. 20th Farookh Abdulla resigned. VP Singh essentially left leaning government said we don't like Jagmohan, they wanted healing touch. May 1990 Jagmohan was removed. By that time every Kashmiri Pandit had left.
On 19 January 1990 there were 1 million Muslims (of 4 million population) in the streets, shouting slogans "Agar Kashmir me Rahna Hoga Allah Hu Akbar Kahna Hoga". It was local Muslims who did it, genocide of Hindus. They were neighbors, co-workers. After that night in next few days almost all Hindus left Kashmir.
19 March 2022: Three hindu youth were stabbed when they were coming after watching Kashmir Files Movie in Kushinagar.
Loss that kashmir went through.
Hindu were killed in Kashmir because they were Hindu. Muslims did not died because they were Muslim.
(20) A list of 50 hate crimes by Muslims.
(21) Jia ul Haq brought an ordinance in 1985, that no woman in Pakistan will be allowed to wear Saree. He banned Saree, as symbol of Hindu culture.
(22) https://twitter.com/swati_gs/
Terrorists live the next door, people hide them and during army search operations, they say that they are relative, nephew, brother in law, son in law etc.
Women there throw hot rice water on army men.
RJD, CPI(ML) MLAs tear ‘Kashmir Files’ tickets inside Bihar Assembly, Congress MLAs refuse tickets. RJD, CPI(ML) MLAs tear ‘Kashmir Files’ tickets inside Bihar Assembly, Congress MLAs refuse tickets. RJD spokesperson Mrityunjay Tewari said, “Why does the government not show us films on unemployment and issues of common people’s interest? They want to further their communal agenda by showcasing a film like ‘Kashmir Files.’
This is the mentality, which thwarted any action or civil movement in 1990s, even information was thwarted from reaching to the people.
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Actually if you talk to a Pakistani or a Muslim he will give a very different account.
Some ay they killed because those Hindus were RSS member. But first of all entire narrative in media about RSS has no head or tail, it is complete fiction.
Second those Kashmiri Hindus were not RSS members. Third they had no right to kill, even if some say 1% among them were.
Another excuse they give is that it was all Indian governments conspiracy to malign them.
If that is true then why they oppose and threaten any Hindu who wants to return his home, even today?
They also first deny and then give excuse about why they killed Hindus in 1971 in east Pakistan.
Just like every Muslim I have talked to, has never accepted that 9/11 world trade center and pentagon attack was done by Islamic terrorists.
They all said about some conspiracy.
Some said it is conspiracy of Jews, that day no Jew came to office in World Trade Center.
Some said that US intelligence and army attacked WTC so that they can attack Afghanistan. And that person was a Shia, PhD.
Guys in TU Delft, born and brought in Netherlands, studying at TU Delft, said it was a Jewish conspiracy.
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My grandfather went to Kashmir in 1975.
And he said that there was extreme hatred for Hindus and the Indian government even then.
Long before terrorism started in 1989.
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Kejri mocked Kashmir Files, said release it free on Youtube, why asking tax free. All MLA laughed.
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Pakistan was not created to do justice to Muslims. Pakistan was created as Pak army claims "To do Jihad in the cause of Allah" as its politicians claim to make "riyasat e madina" As Pakistans constitution and blasphemy laws claim to protect Islam. But leftists say that Pakistan was created because of RSS. Did Jinnah ever mention RSS? Did Muslim leagues 1940 Lahore resolution mentioned RSS?
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Hindus work in UAE for the same reason as Muslim work in UK, USA not Afganistan. Wipro will have most shareholders Hindu, those who gave him bussiness were non-Muslims, Those who run the business are Hindu. Hindus made APJ Kalam honorable. Pakistan or Muslims dont honor any non-Muslim, not even Gandhi.
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Mindset of Pakistani people
During partition Muslim League politicians, who were mostly large landlords, were busy seizing the lands of fleeing Hindus and Sikhs. Studies show that 40% of wealth in the present Pakistan belonged to non-Muslims. Most of these lands and industries were grabbed by rich Muslims for free and by terrorizing their owners.____________________________________________________________________________________________________
OK Hindus have caste system, but made Muslims destroy Jain, Sikh and Buddhist temples? Muslims and Christians go to every corner of the world too every people finding faults in them.
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2nd January 2023, terrorist barged into two Hindu homes in Rajouri. Checked aadhar identity (checking religion) and fired indiscriminately, killing seven including two children.
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In the 1990s, the federal national curriculum required sixth class children to know about “India’s evil designs against Pakistan” and “to make speeches on jihad and shahadat”.
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Today 21 Jun 2023
‘There was no shortage of empty lands in Mughal era, they why did Mughals built their mosques close to/over temples only? What was the purpose?’